[22:23] <necrosis|work> So what do you all think about SE's possable legit RMT?
[22:23] <C45P3R> Huh?
[22:23] <Hariharakadan> They taking a Everquest approach?
[22:24] <Hariharakadan> Selling gil themselves to hinder RMTs gil sales.
[22:24] <Cbc> I always thought that would be a smart idea
[22:24] <necrosis|work> http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=125929541996928963&num=55&page=1
[22:24] <necrosis|work> SE does that ill never touch 14
[22:24] <C45P3R> Well it would have to be at a rate that would compete with RMT's rates, and it would have the additional effect of causing people to not farm, destrying the economy
[22:25] <necrosis|work> No
[22:25] <Jengel[Wark]> well it would increase prices for people who do farm:p
[22:25] <necrosis|work> there is nothing good that can come of it
[22:25] <Jengel[Wark]> apart from less other RMT
[22:25] <necrosis|work> seriously. Its a bad fucking idea.
[22:25] <C45P3R> I say bad idea too
[22:25] <Cbc> The whole "if you buy from the competition we'll ban you" thing comes into play imho
[22:25] <necrosis|work> Unless they limit it to specific servers.
[22:25] <necrosis|work> Of which i wont join.
[22:26] <C45P3R> RMT sucks period
[22:26] <necrosis|work> Your basically paying money for cheat codes.
[22:26] < For monopoly money to.
[22:27] <Cbc> you guys ever play gunbound?
[22:27] <necrosis|work> nope
[22:27] <Cbc> looks like that sort of system
[22:27] <C45P3R> Never hear dof it
[22:27] <Cbc> basically two types of currency
[22:27] <Cbc> "earned" and "bought"
[22:27] <Cbc> some items can be bought with either both or only one
[22:28] <necrosis|work> And thats BS./
[22:28] <Cbc> well gunbound is a worms type game
[22:28] <C45P3R> lol sounds like that one game I played once that was a "free" mmo
[22:28] <Kensaki> Your monetary means in real life should never give you advantages ingame.
[22:28] <Cbc> except all korean and engrishy
[22:29] <necrosis|work> Its one thing for a monthly fee its another to allow specific peopele to get ahead faster just because they have more IRL money. Its like that IRL, people with more money get ahead. But in a game setting thats bullshit and takes the 'fun' out of it. You play games to escape IRL not do more of it.
[22:29] <Cbc> also! single most retarded playerbase of all time
[22:29] <C45P3R> Dragon Fable is the same
[22:30] <Cbc> I could see it working, really
[22:30] <C45P3R> Special "Guardian" weapons & armor you buy with bought currency
[22:31] <Cbc> like you wouldn't be able to buy EX stuff that wasn't a rank 4 or 5 bonanza prize
[22:31] <necrosis|work> 'Legit' RMT does not have a foot to stand on. Peroid. And the retort that 'legit' RMT will stop 'illegal' RMT is like saying legit crack is better than what you get off the corner.
[22:31] <C45P3R> lol
[22:31] <Cbc> obv
[22:31] <Kensaki> Basically the second a mmo I play goes to sell ingame currency or other ingame advantages i press the cancel account button no matter if its ffxi or ffxiv.
[22:31] <Cbc> but the market's there
[22:32] <Kensaki> Most people I know do th
[22:32] <Kensaki> the same
[22:32] <Cbc> and better the company providing the service offer the goods than someone else, in their eyes
[22:32] <necrosis|work> There is a market for human organs. Is it a goo didea for you to seel them at the local shoping center?
[22:32] <Cbc> apples and oranges
[22:33] <necrosis|work> Yes the items being sold are. The analogy is not.
[22:33] <Hariharakadan> Used to work for China. Least till they got caught selling prisoner organs. ;p
[22:33] <necrosis|work> lol
[22:33] <necrosis|work> Look. If SE does this fine. They do it on my/all servers they can kiss my ass.
[22:33] <Cbc> i don't see the similarity in throwing money at something for fun and throwing money at something for biological hazards
[22:34] <Cbc> -I- wouldn't do it, either
[22:34] <necrosis|work> Cbc- so you think its fare that people with more IRL money should break ahead of those that don't?
[22:34] <necrosis|work> fair*
[22:34] <C45P3R> Because if people can buy their way to the top ranks in the game when your of little means and worked your ass of to get where you are, it takes the fun out of it.
[22:34] <Cbc> that's life
[22:35] <Cbc> squenix is a company
[22:35] <Kensaki> yes please people equate something that usually comes from kidnapping and killing people to virtual items.
[22:35] <necrosis|work> Cbc- and a game is *NOT* life.
[22:35] <Cbc> companys are sociopaths
[22:35] <C45P3R> yes, that's life, shoudln't be game, game is for fun.
[22:35] <Cbc> don't go asking them for fairness or you're going to be disappointed
[22:35] <necrosis|work> I just know that if SE does this their userbase turnover rate will be more than the local McDonalds.
[22:36] <C45P3R> The second a game is tied to real life, that's the second I won't ever touch that game again.
[22:36] <necrosis|work> Most known gil buyers ive seen in the years of playing FFXI dont stick around long.
[22:36] <Jengel[Wark]> the ones who do stay just dont admit:p
[22:37] <necrosis|work> Or really have no life and lots of money.
[22:37] <Jengel[Wark]> actually
[22:37] <Cbc> but really
[22:37] <Jengel[Wark]> the ones with a life benefit most from buying gil:p
[22:37] <Cbc> if something about a game doesn't make you happy, don't play it
[22:37] <Cbc> you're entitles to that right!
[22:38] <Cbc> and chances are if you're not going to pay more than you need to squeenix doesn't want you hanging around like a bad habit
[22:38] <necrosis|work> If someone does something we dont like to a game we love people fight for change instead of just walking away.
[22:39] <necrosis|work> tho with game companies its evdant that walking away is really the only option.
[22:39] <Kensaki> Yes cause SE or blizzard gives a shit about what you say.
[22:39] <necrosis|work> MW2 anyone?
[22:39] <Cbc> protip: hax ur own servers
[22:39] <Jengel[Wark]> mechwarrior 2 rocked:p
[22:39] <Cbc> reeaally need some private ffxi servers
[22:40] <Jengel[Wark]> and the whole dedicated server thing is overrated